Specifically, I was thinking, maybe what I could do is make a 0% super fat formula using tallow, and then after the saponification process has ended (I do mostly Hot Process), I could add something like coconut oil as my super fat right before I begin incorporating my fragrance or color, etc. My first flop – i’m pretty happy about it though and even more so happy to be in the soap game finally! If you render pork fat, all you will have is lard. most don’t keep the fats when they get their animals butchered. either way, im sure the RSPO will have information or links. I just got what said “lard” from the baking isle at the grocery store, did I do something wrong? For me trying to gain knowledge, is she pushing the soap making to the max and getting lucky or is the 10% and never use one type of oil, butter, or fat I keep reading about just a safe standard for a higher success rate? Lard soap lathers up with creamy, silky bubbles that are mild and gentle on your skin. You could also work on making larger batches so you can set them aside to age longer—that will really help! Don’t be surprised to see that the fat, while liquid, is golden in color. 20 oz tallow or lard; 10 oz coconut oil (I use expeller-pressed coconut oil– it has no coconut scent and is cheaper) While tallow at least contains a tiny bit of lauric and myristic acid, shea butter contains none. I am a (former) zoologist who worked with orangutans and chimpanzees for many years. I am going to run my recipe through the lye calculator to make sure my water and lye will change or not with substituting the 15% tallow. I’m so grateful to have found a way to practice the craft. In exchange she will have soap as long as I can provide it. It is not. I hope this helps with your friend. Bwaahaha, I definitely have a catalog of similar experiences, lol. It gets me pumped up! While beeswax can certainly contribute to a hard bar, it’s not a great substitute for including a hard oil in your recipe—especially for beginner soapers. To many people today are selfish and worry about themselves and don’t blink an eye at 10,20, 100 years and care what they are dong to the plant as long as they have the oil they want. I’m not trying to be ‘preachy’, but, am just offering advice from perspective of the Vedas. Thanks for your input, I can tell you’re very passionate about this . So, you’ll see something like “per 500g oils: 1 tbsp clay, 30g essential oil”. Cook with tallow in lieu of olive oil or butter. My soaps are highly sought after and using lard has never hindered my sales. I avoid certain meats that are Biblically unclean. 163g lye I have some vegan bars I made with shea butter about 2 years ago and they’re nice and firm now! are starting to ask me to sell them. So here’s my dilemma: I started making soap last fall, and absolutely love it! Your soaps are so beautiful. I sell mainly to friends and family right now. Tallow and lard both have their uses in soap making and cooking. I’m officially heartbroken over palm oil. I can’t work anymore so this would be a great way to bring in some extra money. That is quite a ways off as I still have some lye that I bought and will use it up first. That said, I have learned most of my ingredient knowledge from you Marie and for that I need to thank you. In my feeble attempt to reduce my footprint on the earth, I have just made my first batch of soap. )—instead, I say “this amount per 500g of oils” (those oils being the fats that compose the soap, not the EOs). not all entirely correct. Woohoo! Tallow Soap Doesn’t Smell. Thanks for chiming in Religious reasons are a whole different cup of tea! Take the butter and melt it and the impurities will come up to the top, skim those off and you are left with Clarified Butter, or Ghee. It’s the organ fat that solidifies. I would never hide that info from a vegan. Very cool, thanks! If babaçu is also called babassu, we can get that, too—it’s like coconut oil, but much more expensive. I also love to use local organic honey – organic beefarming is helping bee populations and moreover, my own vegetable harvest depends on healthy bee populations (and actually, a part of our garden is stocked up with bee flowers and bushes – I feel it is like an mutual support). THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUBLISHING YOUR OPINIONS ON PALM OIL!! That said, I wouldn’t mind the word “lard” said in a list of ingredients in soap. I wonder if I should have discounted the water. And yet, they need at least 3 months to cure since my base oil is still olive (at least 65 % in all of my soaps!) (altho it does benefit from some drying out time). That was this January, and then I got hooked on soap. There are numerous tallow uses. Finally the issue of palm oil and the negative impact on animals and environment is a very serious issue. vegetarian at best, I just don’t agree with perpetuating the problem when it comes to the treatment of animals. Maybe take your frame of mind out of what you have been told to convince yourself it’s okay & remember it’s your money that talks & makes living animals become products. Once people try it and see it is nothing like they think it would be (like smearing ground beef juices all over their skin), they may sign a different tune. thanx for listening. Marie makes valid points, respects all lives, and makes sound decisions on utilizing value added products. Think of all that waste. The saponification process transforms all the base ingredients. Organic feed is not cheap so this rooster was not wasted. This topic I think, will always be a sensitive topic in the cosmetic DIY/industry. If that is the case, it is possible that her religion and the way she was raised has caused her to see meat products (particularly non kosher meat) as something that will defile her. I am severely allergic to pork so I was looking for a better alternative. Thanks heaps for the faqs link. The last butcher I got tallow from sold it to me at about $1.50/lb in a giant bag, but after I cooked it down there wasn’t that much tallow (and a lot of waste product), so I ended up paying closer to $15/lb for the tallow itself, which is pretty expensive for a cut of meat, let alone something they usually can’t even sell! It has been curing for about a week and I can’t wait to use it. My reason for visiting your site was to find natural ways to make a bison tallow soap. My foray into soaping has turned up such a gift of a truly inspiring community of people. Thats good for me and the planet and yes – you still have to wait 6 months. Thanks for all the info, Heather It is always good to know there are good, responsible alternatives out there. Thank you . I’d probably add it the same way you’ve been adding your goat milk—freeze it into cubes and count it as part of the water I imagine it would make for a creamier soap in the end, but I haven’t tried it so I can’t say for sure. What I wanted to mention, if it hasn’t been pointed out yet, is that tallow can be bought in the pastry section, just like lard can be. Maybe they’ll trade me the tallow for some soap! Grandmother was amused because I took such interest..smell (no added scent), color, texture..etc. Just got into your videos on Youtube and they’re cool. There are other religions where the cow is sacred…I’m not sure how touching the remains of a dead cow might impact their religious life. Hmmmmm. Tallow makes a very hard and creamy soap and the animals have all ready been killed for meat so lets make use off it. What a nonsense. If it was made entirely with liquid oils and you don’t live somewhere particularly dry; I’ve read accounts from other soapers raving over their 5 year old 100% olive oil castile bars. Commercial lye is pretty cheap here and I have quite a bit of it. I make vegan soap that is very well received, does not turn in to a “pile of glop the second it gets wet” and does not take years to harden. It is solid at room temperature. Most people know what it means. The only thing I don’t like is that soap scum from animal fats sticks more, but then I like a good workout when cleaning…keeps the blood circulating! It does take longer to trace and I never have the patience to take my castile to a thick trace, thin to medium at best for me before I pour. This is HUGE folks! I will let you know how the rendering and soap turns out. I use goat milk in my soap as the liquid along with 20-30% goat tallow depending on what other oils I put in the recipe. Lots of greetings! Do some homework about what harvesting palm is doing to orangutans’ habitat. Eventually I will probably list vegan and non vegan soaps. I think my lard & tallow soaps feel perfectly lovely and luxurious, but I am a little biased Let me know how yours turn out! So I bought it and I bought a slow cooker and decided to try out my first batch of hot process soap. Thanks for reading & have fun with your soap! So I don’t mind if someone next to me is eating pork or shellfish. I think, educated and smart people like you should take more responsibility for what they are promoting.. It’s also very very soft and gets used up within about 5-6 uses. My Grandma was born in 1900, she made her own soaps and used lard. For me, my soap is to clean my body with added benefits such as added butters,oils, EO’s,clays and others (trying to stay with natural additives). . The lye just doesnt dissolve as well in this small and cold amount of water. The white, firm fat produced could be used in cooking, candle making, and salves, as well as soap making. Just found your site and love it by the way! The label specifically states it is palm oil manufactured in Africa under fair trade and sustainable conditions. You may wonder, is tallow the same as lard? batch, Olive Oil 32 oz (usually 1 L bottle) Just spent my morning reading every single comment here. It’s really disheartening when someone says how beautiful my soaps are and then goes “oh there’s fat in this, ew” after reading the ingredients. Hi! There’s nothing quite as awesome as having oodles of new soap aging—except for maybe that week when they’re all ready at once! How does this work to take care of that? Sounds like another blog entry idea for me! Tallow is semi-soft beef fat that’s great for high heat frying as it remains very stable under hot temperature and imparts a good flavor. Tallow and Lard are softer and malleable. Your email address will not be published. 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